All these Madrid fans speaking in English.. Must be supporters just coz of their glory lol haven't even been to the berabeu let alone Spain aka manchesterutl who used to support Man U...
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All these Madrid fans speaking in English.. Must be supporters just coz of their glory lol haven't even been to the berabeu let alone Spain aka manchesterutl who used to support Man U...
I have been there and have watched Rm play in Sweden and Qatar, but what does that have to do with you supporting a team?
for god sake people everyone has his own opinion we dont need to force someone to love his best player,
I believe that heskey is better than ronaldo and messi combined, yes got a problem!
so stop with all these hates on each player, and honestly dyna and tiki, i though you two were always getting along till this month both of you went on crack!
like literally share opinions but dont force into arguments
^nobody gets along when debating CR vs Messi
Opinions are just personal thoughts, we all have them but that doesnt mean that they cant be ridiculously incorrect or simply wrong. When someone replies "it's just my opinion ok" that is when you know that certain opinion is just based in one man's fantasy.
Regarding the topic. Ive always said that winning a bunch of trophies with one team is always an amazing achievement but winning several with different teams is even a greater one, kind of like the Mourinho vs Guardiola debate. He is sadly missing the European supercup... dam you Zenit!
Yeah but its a little unfair considering that one has never changed club, its like saying that Giggs or Scholes could not succeed elsewhere...
Loyalty should be given credit not bashed, im sure tuanis you would have loved to see him staying in United.
That's a case just to settle some kind of tie f.e. two managers wining the same amount of cups but one with different teams and the other with the same team. I would admit that someone who won the same amount of trophies as Scholes or Giggs but with different teams has significant more merit. But that is not the case with Messi and Ronaldo. Loyalty in the other hand is given lots of credit but only by fans, not by the entire football audience and sadly loyalty is not on the stats sheet at the end of the career.
I kinda agree with Tuanis and disagree with him.
Success in 2 leagues prove you are an adaptable guy.
BUT, in depend on the situation: If you, go from one shit league and you move to a better one. Or if you are in a best team of a league then move to another equally good league but a MEDIOCRE team, and do something Ronaldo can do, then YES!!!
He move from one best club in a country to another very best club of another country... It doesn't prove much. He's amazing and still amazing.
In case of Mou, he had huge success in a less powerful club and still success in bigger clubs. now that's something deserve special recognition. But again, coaching is very different
In this case Zlatan and Tevez should get most of recognition...
@Tuan
Thats totally true, I think it applies way more for managers than players but the point still stands, its a huge merit to win trophies with various teams.
But still.. I think this is a weird achievement made up by Ronaldo fans because it really doesn't prove anything other that what we knew. Dont get me wrong, wining this many trophies is worthy of mention but selling the achievement as a world record, seems a little desperate for giving him more achievements. People gathered up trophies he won at United and then waited until he won those with Madrid to revel the record. This record doesn't include european super cup or international records. I find it more of an achievement wining the Champions League and League tittle with 3 different teams just like Seedorf did. Hopefully someone gets the point Im trying to make here, this achievement seems a little forced by fans trying too hard to praise Cristiano even higher.
^Thats totally true, I think it applies way more for managers than players but the point still stands, its a huge merit to win trophies with various teams.
But still.. I think this is a weird achievement made up by Ronaldo fans because it really doesn't prove anything other that what we knew. Dont get me wrong, wining this many trophies is worthy of mention but selling the achievement as a world record, seems a little desperate for giving him more achievements. People gathered up trophies he won at United and then waited until he won those with Madrid to revel the record. This record doesn't include european super cup or international records. I find it more of an achievement wining the Champions League and League tittle with 3 different teams just like Seedorf did. Hopefully someone gets the point Im trying to make here, this achievement seems a little forced by fans trying too hard to praise Cristiano even higher.
@Tuanis
But it's an achievement regardless. No player has ever done this before. Messi is praised by Barcelona fans for scoring a hat-trick with his right foot, so Madridistas should be allowed to praise Ronaldo for winning (almost) every single trophy twice with two different clubs. It's a unique achievement even Seedorf couldn't match. And Ronaldo won't accomplish what Seedorf did because it's almost guaranteed that he will retire at one of United, Madrid, or a club in Portugal.
Geez, and here I thought Pele was just about the greatest of all time!
Cristiano Ronaldo has become the first ever footballer to win all major individual and team trophies at club level for two teams (Ballon d'Or, Golden Boot, League Title, Domestic Cup, Domestic Supercup, Intercontinental Cup, Club World Cup).
Cristiano Ronaldo has become the first ever footballer to win all major individual and team trophies at club level for two teams (Ballon d'Or, Golden Boot, League Title, Domestic Cup, Domestic Supercup, Intercontinental Cup, Intercontinental Supercup, Club World Cup).