What you think of Mou and Pep, their relationship? do you agree with the article

http://www.football.co.uk/bayern-munich/classy-pep-guardiola-will-always-be-counted-above-jose-mouri/6167732/

It's hard for Guardiola to accept that Mourinho is better than him

maybe it is other way around?

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I don't think that highly of Pep Guardiola to be honest. Obviously, winning 6 titles in his first season at professional level is as big as it gets, but I still think he needs to prove himself in a more difficult environment. He's spent 20+ years at Barcelona, he's lived their philosophy, he's witnessed the changes Cruyff made to them and was a pioneer in some way - you'd expect him to do well (obviously not '6 titles in one season'-well, but you get the picture). In Germany - let's be honest - there's absolutely no competition for Bayern, you don't have to be a magician to win that league with a squad that is two or three classes above the rest. In my opinion he needs to coach another team in Spain (unlikely) or go to England to show that he's able to compete in a tougher league instead of staying in his comfort zone.

Also, something that makes him inferior to other managers like Mourinho or Ancelotti is his one-dimensional tactical approach. He doesn't adapt to the opposition - instead he tries to get through with his 3atb Bundesliga tactics, which obviously won't work against a team like Barcelona. Generally speaking , I'm also not a fan of his useless position changes. Who in the right mind would play Lahm - widely regarded as the best right back in world football - as a CM, when the only player capable of replacing him is Rafinha, who just isn't good enough for a top club like Bayern. Why play Lahm as CM, when you have other fantastic midfielders at your disposal to take his spot, for example Javi Martinez. Another example is Alaba, who quite often plays as a CB. Now, Alaba is a versatile player, but pairing him with Boateng, when you have Benatia, Dante and Badstuber available at full fitness is something very odd to do. Sometimes I get the feeling that Guardiola changes things for the sake of it, not because it helps or benefits the team, but only so people say 'Oh look, Pep changed this, Pep changed that'. Why doesn't he keep the 4231 formation, which worked out so well under Heynckes? He's trying to turn Bayern into Barcelona, which just isn't right.

Also, I don't buy that whole 'Pep is classy' thing. Maybe he's classy in front of the camera, but behind closed doors - well, I don't know. The whole row with Zlatan Ibrahimovic and the treatment he apparently received from Guardiola raise a lot of questions. I don't want to jump to assumptions, but I'm sure you've all heard the story of him not visiting his 'friend' Tito Vilanova after his life-saving operation, although he was just having his sabbatical and had a lot of time at his hands. I don't know if this is really true, but I don't trust his 'perfect persona' anyways.

I buy it. The classy thingy.

To me Pep is way classier than Mourinho. As much as Ancelotti is classier than Mourinho in all kind of aspects. If you read the article provided my John Snow, they kinda spot on the fact that Mou keeps mocking on Pep's failure to stress on how successful he was to stop Messi (which is rightly so).

And his recent interview claiming La Liga is dead easy and when he was Real's coach they only play 4 or 5 real games (HOW IRONIC). Again, this is just to show how cool he has done to manage to win EPL, because like a lot of Chelsea fans here said: it super competitive... look at Chelsea last lost.... lollllllz.

If you read that article, they say Zlatan finds any possible chance to disregard Pep and Barca and Messi... the other parties remained silient. That's classy. Later on they proved that if Zlatan had put the team in front of him, may be it's different. Look at Messi now, he droped deep play like a mid and support Suarez.

Having said that. it doesnt neccessary mean they are better managers.

Different coach has different philosophy, Pep's philosophy if executing it wrong can be dead boring at time as worst and the "parking the bus"...

I believe Mou is one of the best out there, that no doubt about it. And any team would fear his team. He is the most entertaining guy and hate him or love him he's scary. Just sometimes, he's beyond ridiculous

I am tent to believe that Mou is mocking up Pep intentionally to prove smth. Otherwise I will say he is stupid to bring up Pep everytime, mention him etc. and many consider as him smart guy. So, why there is such a urge? Looser mentality particularly against Pep?

I don't think Pep is all good and stuff. I know that he knows how to loose and win as a man. He has Barca breed philosophy, and it is obviously worked perfect in certain period of time. But now every team out there aware of it and already made researches and conferences on the theme how to stop tiki-taka. (overact)

Man, I really think Messi still has psychological trauma against RM defenders. It seems he becomes toothless against RM defence after Mou, you may see it if you watch matches. All because of Mou's crazy desire to all cost stop Messi, as if he say "if you can't stop him physically then break his mental health by constant physical abuse". I know what I am talking about, ain't gone nuts. If you see bunch of people team up against you with violent attitude and physical abuse you will definetely have some reflexes created. In Messi's case I think it is fear. Of course no Messi going to say that nor Mou.

Well, I think that Mou is not good manager. Football is a sport, sport means sportsmanship, it is suppose to bring joy and beauty, not kill them all attitude to get what you want. If you see obviously superior team, skilful, organized etc. and you loose to them you respect them even praise maybe - behave like a man. Not mess over someone, (poke the eye), not start to look for some secret work behind, try to start fight. I recal every classico with Mou as a coach of RM, it was disaster, just disgrace.

And now compare SAF or other great managers like Anchelotti after defite to Barca. He actually praise opposing players. And when they win they will not mocke and try to decrease value of others. True Legends!! HUGE RESPECT!

@tuan_jinn:

Except that no-one said that Mourinho was classy in the first place. Just because I'm a Chelsea fan, doesn't mean that I'm going to defend everything he does. I like Mourinho, but there are also quite a few things about him that I don't support.

He never said it was 'dead easy'. You're doing exactly what sensational press does, twisting his words to sell more news papers or - in your case - back up your argument. However, it is pretty close to the truth that the two top contenders only have a few opponents that can challenge or make a game tough for them - Atletico, Valencia, Villarreal and Sevilla. Occasionally, Athletic Bilbao also gives them a run for their money, but realistically, that's it. When they play the other 13 or 14 La Liga teams you know that they're going to get the 3 points, more often that not with ease. How many times does it happen that Barcelona or Real win 5-0 or 6-0 against some bottom half teams? Quite often indeed, it doesn't even surprise me anymore. Of course, I don't deny the fact that Barcelona and Real Madrid are a class above all Premier League title contenders, but it is also pretty clear that the bottom half of the La Liga is much worse than the bottom half of the Premier League, while the top half of La Liga is better than the top half of the BPL in my opinion. Additionally, the fact that in Real Madrid and Barcelona there are two teams that manage to get 90+ points every season shows how bad the small teams are in comparison to the top dogs of La Liga.

Anyways, back to Guardiola. I've found some videos that show that he's not as classy as you think. Imagine if Mourinho did that.

Screaming and acting disrespectful towards the groundkeepers pre-Porto:

Mock applauding Bayern doctor Müller-Wohlfahrt after Benatia injured himself against Leverkusen. Later, he publicly blamed the medic and the rest of his staff for all the injuries. Müller-Wohlfahrt then resigned after being nearly 40 years in charge.
https://twitter.com/mediocentroEN/status/588794718907019264

Deliberately refusing to shake hands with Cristiano Ronaldo at the Ballon d'Or Ceremony. If it was the other way around, Ronaldo would have been abused until the end of time.

Before you come up with Mourinho incidents in response to these vids, I want to note that it's completely unnecessary. I know that Mourinho does or says a lot of questionable things and I don't claim that he's perfect, I just want to show that Guardiola isn't as classy as he is displayed in public.

@JuanMata: "Twisting his words"??? He said: they only played four or five games as real games... 4 or 5??? seriously? That is a big implication of: that was easy unless it among those 4 or 5 matches. If not, then please explain me again what he meant by that and I will drag myself to learn English again.

Beside, I have always like him for his entertaining, hate him for his coward tactics at times (against big teams) and love him how he can find away to win against all odds. It doesn't change my opinion toward classiness.

Pep is classier than Mou does not mean he's perfect and the most classy coach in the world. No he is not... he has his own craps too. But from my point of view he handle wins/loses like a man (at least in most of the cases)... the percentages of blaming, moaning or doing something extremely stupid (poking eyes) are way less...

Having said that I agree that the 2 vids are rather bad, but we all dont know the whole context. The one with Ronaldo we cant see if Ronaldo actually ask to shake hand or tap on shoulder or what... Again from what I see, either way it's not cool the reaction of Pep unless with was something personal, you dont have to like everyone.

They are both great managers but are loved and hated everywhere they go. The one thing that is a fact, is that Mourinho is the better tactician.