'Home grown doesn’t mean English, because you know Cesc Fabregas would count as home grown’, Dyke told Sports Gazette.
‘[Clubs] are spending a lot of money on academies and they’re not getting the players for it. You go to Chelsea, the best youth side in the country, and yet the last player to get regularly into their first team was John Terry.’

Dyke wants to introduce even tougher rules from 2016, to increase the required number of home-grown players from eight to 12 out of 25 by 2020, to apply further pressure on Premier League clubs to take notice of English talent.

‘Academy teams at clubs such as Chelsea are now increasingly filled with foreign players, mirroring the first team', Dyke added.
‘[English players] are not just absent at the top level, they don’t play at all. There are some quite frightening statistics that show that over 70% of the kids who sign a scholarship contract at 16 are out of the game by the time they’re 20.’

Why single out Chelsea ? What about other clubs ? Just because we happen to have a good academy and scouts , we are suddenly at fault for Englands talent . How about that greedy bastard looks at his work . What Has FA done other than implement rules to help youth ? Nothing .

And people called Jose as insane creating conspiracies . FA Clearly does not like Chelsea . They can go fck themselves .

87% of CFCU21 appearances and 85% of CFCU18 appearances this season have been made by players eligible for England.

More academy players in the A-team..that's another matter though..

@Marcus2011 I agree, that guy seem a bit biased.

I'm not starting to hate or anything but. Every time I see Chelsea sign some young talented player, the next thing I read about him is loan, mostly to Vitesse. There's nothing wrong with this IMO but, I never see them coming to A team ever again. You guys got over 30 players on loan! How many of these guys even get a chance to play?
I know teams wants young players to develop them into superstars, but signing all young players without giving them any chances and then selling them for 2x bigger amount. It looks like it's all about the profit.

@quikzyy

You are changing the topic and missing the point . What Chelsea does with their loan players should not be anyones business but the clubs and player who signs contract .

This guy is basically putting the blame on Chelsea for Englands failure to produce talented youth . Completely ignores other top clubs , including Arsenal , who are not doing a better job developing English players . Before you throw me Wallcot , ox and co players please remind yourself what academy they graduated from . However, even if we say they are Arsenal products , this number of English is not enough . Those players would not make the squad in Spain , Germany , Italy , Argentina and so on major teams . So is this Arsenal's fault ? Ofcourse not . FA should be more responsible for the youth development . WTF are they good for other than making money , ruining winter holidays for players and making clubs their money generating slaves .

FA Needs to sort out their bias behavior towards Chelsea . It has gotten incredible outrageous . And if Chelsea tomorrow comes out with statement about remarks Dyke has made , I am sure FA will find a way to fine us and then create more trouble for us in the future .

While it does seem that the FA have gone after Chelsea a lot recently, I'm only exposed to what they say from what you guys post, which has all been Chelsea-related, so I can't comment on that.

However, while I think large clubs in general treat their youth players like shite, Chelsea is far and away the worst. I've heard you guys complain on multiple occasions how your youth players don't get the shot that they deserve, so it's not like this anti-Chelsea hysteria you guys have conjured up. Bamford is a great example, Loftus-Cheek is another. While those are the only players I've personally tracked from Chelsea's youth system, I know (from FIFA 16, **** me right) that you've got lots of other promising youth.

Look at the England National team right now. A bunch of players from the United and Spurs academies mostly. It's abundantly clear that clubs such as Chelsea that should be pulling their weight in that department are not.

@sunflash

Weather you agree or not but Chelsea by UEFA coeficiency is top 4 club in the world . Ofcourse current performance in domestic league won't back it up , but fact is that it will not take one season to change status of Chelsea in world football . Therefore young talents need to show something exceptional to push out first team players . For example : Zouma , Courtois , Azpilicueta , Oscar ( he came he was was 19 ) . If Bamford is good enough he should be making the first team in Crystal Palace for god sake before he even thinks about Chelsea . Also ofcourse it is not like our first team players are extraordinary players but if that is the fact how come those english talents are not pushing them out ?

Our English players think that we should just give them their spot in starting line up . We should give them big paychecks when they are still thinking about video games rather than turning up to a training professionally . We club should pumper them into stars . NO ! IT is all on them . FA should implement new approaches so these players won't get spoiled early and loose their talents . England have lots of talented players but most of them are wasting it themselves . FA should be the one resolving this helping those players , finding right finance managers , setting wage caps . something , because they are spoiled overrated players at the moment . I say this with pain .

At Chelsea there is a pressure from the owner and board , financial pressure and European status pressure to perform well season after season . This year a lot of Chelsea fans complained about youth not playing because they saw no point letting senior players play if they are playing crap so let the youth enjoy matches . It can't get any worse . See my point .

@sunflash

Having players from United and Spurs ? Few players and you saying as if whole england team depends on them . BTW Rooney was not product of your club . Also , you are saying as if England has gotten better with some of them ? Nope . We are not good at all . Those qualification games are nothing . We will go flat in summer like always .

Sigh. This reply is going to take some time and research.

England's national team has always been decent, they just don't play to their level. That being said, they really don't have anyone at the moment I'd call world-class, so we can all agree, I think, on the point that there needs to be higher level English talent.

So let's look at the team now, and where the players come from:

GK:
Joe Hart (Shrewsbury Town)
Jack Butland (Birmingham City)
FB:
Calum Chambers (Southampton)
Nathaniel Clyne (Crystal Palace)
Kieran Gibbs (Wimbledon and Arsenal)
Kyle Walker (Sheffield United)
Ryan Bertrand (Chelsea)
Luke Shaw (Southampton)
Leighton Baines (Wigan)
Danny Rose (Leeds)
CB:
Gary Cahill (Aston Villa)
John Terry (Chelsea)
John Stones (Barnsley)
Chris Smalling (Fulham)
Phil Jones (Blackburn)
Phil Jagielka (Sheffield United)
OMF:
Eric Dier (Sporting CP)
Dele Alli (MK Dons)
Raheem Sterling (Liverpool)
Jesse Lingard (Manchester United)
Adam Lallana (Southampton)
James Milner (Leeds)
Alex Oxlade Chamberlain (Southampton)
Andros Townsend (Tottenham)
Theo Walcott (Southampton)
CM:
Ross Barkley (Everton)
Jonjo Shelvey (Charlton Ath)
Ryan Mason (Tottenham)
Michael Carrick (West Ham)
Fabian Delph (Leeds)
Jack Wilshere (Arsenal)
Jordan Henderson (Sunderland)
Tom Cleverly (Manchester United)
FW:
Jamie Vardy (Sheffield Wednesday/Stocksbridge Park Steels)
Danny Ings (Bournemouth)
Charlie Austin (Reading/various amateur sides)
Danny Welbeck (Manchester United)
Daniel Sturridge (Aston Villa/Manchester City)
Harry Kane (Tottenham)
Wayne Rooney (Everton)

NOTE: If there are two academies listed, the final one is where the player graduated

I'm at home sick right now and had nothing better to do that research this, and I found out that we're all wrong.

Believe it or not, the VAST majority of England's national squad has come from Football Leagues 1 and 2. Southampton is the major exception to this rule. Out of the seven strikers, two didn't graduate from an academy at all.

To be perfectly honest, I don't know what conclusions to draw from this. Obviously, the PL teams are failing HARD in terms of producing English players, since the small academies at Sheffield United/Wednesday have produced more national team players than top three sides in the PL atm COMBINED.

In terms of both graduation and the playing of young English talent, Southampton outdoes everyone, with Spurs, United, and Arsenal also making contributions out of the premier league sides.

Concerning Chelsea specifically, these players were all part of Chelsea's acadamy or signed for them as teenagers or 20-year olds:

John Terry
Ryan Bertrand
Daniel Sturridge

Currently, Chelsea also has several players that play for the U-18, 19, and 21 squads. There's at least five, but I don't want to look that up as well at the moment, maybe one of you can dig through that for me.

I guess my final position on this is that the FA's comments don't make a ton of sense. Chelsea produces English youth players as often as the other major clubs in the PL, which is not often. The only gripe that they could reasonably single Chelsea out over is that both Bertrand and Sturridge were not allowed to succeed at Chelsea, and instead had to do so elsewhere.

Still though, I was stunned at the failure of the supposedly "World-Class" academies of the BPL. Was not expecting that level of failure.

Yeah FA a bunch of bellends robbing us precious points game after game and when the officials give something to Chelsea despite its unfair for the other team the whole world fucking explodes and insults us. After all what have we done for them? Won the most recent UCL as an English team representing them as much as we can. WHERE WAS THE FA WHEN SIR ALEX WAS BOSSING THE REFS? Suddenly because their beloved United doesn't win fuck all in this country they even say things like '‘Academy teams at clubs such as Chelsea are now increasingly filled with foreign players, mirroring the first team', Dyke added.''. I was lucky enough to be taught by my father that men wear pants and women skirts and those people are a bunch of women.

They only thing they are good for is to fine managers and players for TWITTER POSTS OR FOR ANSWERING QUESTIONS with their personal opinion, those people are dictators not the FA. I simply can't believe it that he blames us for England's national team mediocrity when there is only 2/3 Chelsea players at the squad and when they kept isolating Terry one of the finest English CB's. The only one they should point the finger is themselves because as I said on a previous thread NOBODY in this world IMPROVES by accusing others for his failure but when he has the balls to criticise himself as well.

Yeah more rants by me.

Nice research @sunflash , but Those players are not good enough to win EURO . England is one of the best football confederations and arguably for some best domestic competition . And exactly the best brings more money brings more competition and demands more from top clubs which is what costing young talents to be overlooked . They are gamble

FA Needs to look at their work . FA is governing body that represents all the clubs and England national football team . They should not just leave to clubs to supply England with good players . They should be suppliers themselves . IF they want to more english talents they need to work more closely with the clubs and young english talents all over england . That means actually doing their work other than fining people , scheduling matches that fit Broadcasting companies and taking bias stance on the failures of England by singling out one club .

They should be Investing money into facilities to develop that young talent . Set up competition where they can shine then ask clubs to come a take a look at them . NOT Asking clubs to develop English players, which every clubs wants anyway because UEFA pressure , and ask to put them into first team just because they are English talent . They are setting too much expectation from the clubs but are not doing anything themselves . They don't want to cooperate with clubs . They say my way or high way . Governing body should always cooperate with clubs because they bring them money not the other way around .

They need to develop new training facilities for youth , new methods , more coaches , more scouts . We have so much money but FA is just greedy filling their pockets instead of working on finding young English players . YOu might say well clubs should do that too . And yes they are trying and doing it , but exactly because of so much money and so much too loose if season goes bad , top clubs rarely gamble on English talents . They cost too much and they might not help their season which again may become financial looses for the club .

Just look at Jaimie Vardy . IF he had right amount of attention at his youth from FA , he would have become amazing world class striker . He is good now but he has many signs that says he could have been even better . FA needs to dig deep into our leagues helping clubs to recruit and find those young talents . Pin point them and help those players to develop talents. We have so many , so many talented youth but they never get the right type of management and help so they get wasted .

IN conclusion , FA just ungrateful greedy scum and root problem of Englands failure in competitions .

Marcus how would you propose the FA to take care of the players? I mean isn't it the youth academies job to search for and develop the players? FA has improved the focus in youth over the last 3 years with the creation of the development league.

Sure they could develop facilities and improve coaching, but how would they distribute facilities? and coaching doesn't guarantee improvement on youth unless they do something similar to Belgium where they have 1 focal method and idea. The idea of development over competing in youth levels seems to be one of the most important things.

And quite frankly, as long as BPL makes millions on tv deals, youth will always be overlooked by teams when the possibility presents itself. Why risk developing a player when you can pay the same or even less to bring in a player from any other european nation. Wealth is a double edge sword.

I'm going to go ahead and disagree, those players are good enough to win the Euros. Sure, they're not the favourite, but if they weren't England, they'd be pegged for semi-finals at least.

The national team's problem is not player related, and going back the last couple decades, never has been. Organization, management, and team chemistry have sunk England since I started watching this sport, not the talent of the individuals themselves.

Look at the last world cup as an example. Do you think, honestly, that Costa Rica's starting 11 was better than England's? Yet they advanced ahead of England, and no English fan was really surprised, just disappointed.

There's a problem here that goes beyond just the players.

How ? Simple Just read about what German DFB did in 2001 and what they got in return , we can witness now .

What they are doing still not enough . And when chairman comes out with statement like that it makes you scratch your head and ask :
" So why the fck are you chairman for ? "

@sunflash

Good point on team chemistry . I want to refer to Spain to back it up . All their players grew up and played together at some point of their for some period of time . Same goes with Germany . Same with Belgium . Same with France . Italy . Brazil . Youth needs to be nourished like a team selecting best and letting to play with each other as much as they can .

We had a great team that played well but something always went wrong and last chance that team had to win something was in 2006 but failed miserably .

I will go back to my point that FA should be doing reforms and fixing these problems that you listed yourself . also many more things they can do improve Englands national team .