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Can Real Madrid survive without Mourinho?
Dynastian98 12 years ago Edited
Real Madrid 483 7140

I'd like you to take a minute to read this fully. Article from - http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1646289-can-real-madrid-actually-do-better-without-jose-mourinho

How many managers would kill to have the worst season of Jose Mourinho’s career?

Following Friday’s Copa del Rey defeat to local rivals Atletico Madrid, the Real Madrid boss told reporters the current campaign would go down as his poorest in 13 years of club management.

“With a final, a semifinal, a second place and a Super Cup, for me it is the worst,” he said to Marca, adding, “When things go well it’s because of everyone. When things go bad it is the manager’s fault. For me it is the worst season.”

The 50-year-old went as far as saying that even the previous term, in which Madrid won La Liga and compiled 100 points, had been a failure given the club’s inability to win the Champions League—remarks Florentino Perez hinted it in announcingMourinho’s exit in a Monday press conference.

“I would have liked Mourinho to stay for many more years,” stated the Madrid president after revealing the Portuguese would be leaving the club at the end of the season, according to Marca. “But,” he continued, “many Madrid fans believe the pressure he was subjected to wasn’t normal and a person can only put up with so much.”

And he certainly did put up with a lot—the club’s demanding fanbase and a core of egotistical establishment players saw to that.

But he created his own drama as well, picking fights with the likes of Iker Casillas and losing his temper when a more statesmanlike approach would have served him better.

After hearing Perez announce Mourinho’s exit, Barcelona vice president CarlesVilarrubi lashed out at the departing Madrid manager, saying he had been “a scourge” to La Liga and that seeing him leave Spanish football was positive because “he had created a negative atmosphere,” per Marca.

It seems the decision makers at Madrid eventually came around to Barcelona’s way of thinking (something that doesn’t happen often), and one of the first points of business for the new manager will be to restore an element of respect at the Bernabeu.

Enter Carlo Ancelotti.

Set to leave Paris Saint-Germain, it is thought the Italian already has a personal agreement in place with Real Madrid, according to Goal, and his behavioural style is certainly something that would have been considered in approaching him.

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How many managers would kill to have the worst season of Jose Mourinhou2019s career?

Following Fridayu2019s Copa del Rey defeat to local rivals Atletico Madrid, the Real Madrid boss told reporters the current campaign would go down as his poorest in 13 years of club management.

u201cWith a final, a semifinal, a second place and a Super Cup, for me it is the worst,u201d he said to Marca, adding, u201cWhen things go well itu2019s because of everyone. When things go bad it is the manageru2019s fault. For me it is the worst season.u201d

The 50-year-old went as far as saying that even the previous term, in which Madrid won La Liga and compiled 100 points, had been a failure given the clubu2019s inability to win the Champions Leagueu2014remarks Florentino Perez hinted it in announcingMourinhou2019s exit in a Monday press conference.

u201cI would have liked Mourinho to stay for many more years,u201d stated the Madrid president after revealing the Portuguese would be leaving the club at the end of the season, according to Marca. u201cBut,u201d he continued, u201cmany Madrid fans believe the pressure he was subjected to wasnu2019t normal and a person can only put up with so much.u201d

And he certainly did put up with a lotu2014the clubu2019s demanding fanbase and a core of egotistical establishment players saw to that.

But he created his own drama as well, picking fights with the likes of Iker Casillas and losing his temper when a more statesmanlike approach would have served him better.

After hearing Perez announce Mourinhou2019s exit, Barcelona vice president CarlesVilarrubi lashed out at the departing Madrid manager, saying he had been u201ca scourgeu201d to La Liga and that seeing him leave Spanish football was positive because u201che had created a negative atmosphere,u201d per Marca.

It seems the decision makers at Madrid eventually came around to Barcelonau2019s way of thinking (something that doesnu2019t happen often), and one of the first points of business for the new manager will be to restore an element of respect at the Bernabeu.

Enter Carlo Ancelotti.

Set to leave Paris Saint-Germain, it is thought the Italian already has a personal agreement in place with Real Madrid, according to Goal, and his behavioural style is certainly something that would have been considered in approaching him.

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Lodatz 12 years ago
Tottenham Hotspur, England 150 4992

I agree with Dynast.

I think he made some mistakes in handling certain matters, like the Casillas affair, but other than that he's not done a whole lot wrong. As you say, Dynast, 3 CL semi-finals in a row, returning Madrid to the European stage, and winning a record-breaking domestic season is hardly peanuts, against the greatest Barcelona side of all time.

Let's not forget that was another reason he was brought in -- not just to aim for La Decima, but also to derail Barcelona, as he had done at Chelsea and Inter Milan. And, for one season at least, he did.

The reason he's so hated in the Spanish media is because he didn't pay them the respect they believe they deserve, and in fairness, he's got some good points to make about them. Of COURSE Barcelona hate him, because, well, they've been having a grudge match with him for a decade now, and it's easy to say that he 'poisoned' Madrid, or the league, or whatever hyperbole they want to come out with. It's utterly self-serving for them, I would would advise the Barca fans on this site to be aware how much they're being influenced by pro-Barca media on this matter. ;)

So, he walks away, and it's going to go down in history as a failed job at Real. Even though it shouldn't really, but also because in a way it was. It's neither one or the other -- it just is what it is.

Madrid will bounce back. Ancelotti is a badass manager, and takes organization seriously, which will help them cope. Whether they remain at the big table with Barca, United, Bayern and Chelsea remains to be seen, and I think hinges much more on whether they keep Ronaldo, instead.

If you lose him... I think it will take 5 years or more before you're competing with Barcelona again on equal footing.

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manchesterutI 12 years ago
Real Madrid, England 23 388

Alright MR. Smartass, since you like to talk about statistics, please enlighten me with the money spend on the team from 03 and on, with the one that was used when/after Mou came.
No shit you're gonna get good statistics with tons of money spent. Did you win the CL though?

As for matching Guardiola's Barca? Should we say, Di matteo is legendary as he got a destroyed team and matched Guardiola's Barca in the semis and Bayern in the final?

Of course it might take a couple of years to rebuild cos a lot of players might leave but hey, Porto did it, Chelsea did it. Inter just sucks.

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Golden 12 years ago
35 693

@Dynastian,

Of course. Right now I don't care who we buy. For God's sake, if we just don't sell anyone else for a period.

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Dynastian98 12 years ago
Real Madrid 483 7140

@manchesterutI

Okay, then. Let\'s look at Madrid\'s spending then.

2003-10 (pre-Mourinho)

Beckham - 35.000.000
Walter Samuel - 24.000.000
Jonathan Woodgate - 20.000.000
Michael Owen - 12.000.000
Thomas Graveson - 3.500.000
Sergio Ramos - 27.000.000
Robinho - 25.000.000
Baptista - 20.000.000
Cicinho - 8.000.000
Diogo - 6.000.000
Cassano - 5.500.000
Garcia - 4.500.000
Cannabaro - 10.000.000
Emerson - 10.000.000
Van Nistelrooy - 15.000.000
M. Diarra - 26.000.000
Gago - 20.000.000
Higuain - 13.000.000
Marcelo - 6.500.000
Robben - 36.000.000
Sneijder - 27.000.000
Pepe - 30.000.000
Drenthe - 14.000.000
Heinze - 12.000.000
Van Der Vaart - 13.000.000
Garcia - 4.000.000
De La Red - 4.700.000
Garay - 10.000.000
Huntelaar - 20.000.000
Lass - 20.000.000
Arbeloa - 4.500.000
C. Ronaldo - 94.000.000
Kaka - 65.000.000
Alonso - 40.000.000
Negredo - 5.000.000
Albiol - 15.000.000
Benzema - 35.000.000
Granero - 4.500.000

Trophies won in those years - 3
Money spent - 724.700.000

2010-13 (pro-Mou)

Canales - 4.500.000
Di Maria - 25.000.000
Leon - 10.000.000
Khedira - 12.000.000
Ozil - 15.000.000
Carvalho - 8.000.000
Sahin - 10.000.000
Callejon - 5.000.000
Varane - 10.000.000
Coentrao - 30.000.000
Modric - 30.000.000
Lopez - 4.000.000

Trophies won in these years - 3
Money spent - 163.500.000

So you see, Mourinho made an amazing team that won three trophies in three years, compared to a team that won 3 trophies in 8 years. And he spent considerably less per trophy. :)

As for Di Matteo, he didn\'t \"destroy\" Barca. Or Bayern, for that matter. I don\'t consider a 3-2 victory and a victory after extra time on penalties as \"destroying\" a team. How Di Matteo won is that he and his players worked their butts off. They wanted that trophy, and they will stop at nothing to get it. And they got the results for their effort. Di Matteo really did the only thing he could think about. Absorb the pressure, and counter when they win the ball. And it worked. Although it required a little magic from Didier Drogba to be perfect. ;)

So you see, Chelsea may have beaten Barca 1-0, and Getafe may have beaten them 1-0, and maybe Osasuna beat them 3-2 as well, but neither of these teams or their managers are \"legendary\". Because none of them beat Barcelona consistently, or convincingly. Which is what Mourinho did. He beat them, and he beat them GOOD. In fact, Chelsea required a Herculean effort to win, Getafe got extremely lucky with Messi and Villa hitting the post in the 90th minute, and the combined score of all the Osasuna vs. Barcelona games that season was FCB 16-4 OSA. ;)

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Dynastian98 12 years ago
Real Madrid 483 7140

And the reason Inter "sucks" at the moment is that they had an aging roster. Mou left at the perfect time. He left just after winning the treble, and he made sure that he left before his squad's average age went too close to 30. Clever little bastard. He knew Inter was on the decline, and that Madrid had a young roster, so he switched teams at the perfect time. ;)

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raimondo90 12 years ago
Valencia, Argentina 89 2492

Dynas now that's not really fair since Mou used a lot of player that were bought the year before which add up to over 250m

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manchesterutI 12 years ago
Real Madrid, England 23 388

"Trophies won in these years - 3
Money spent - 163.500.000"

I guess this was RM team when they won these trophies?

I didnt take:

Benzema - 35.000.000
C. Ronaldo - 94.000.000
Kaka - 65.000.000
Alonso - 40.000.000

to win any of these 3 trophies?
It did not take 163E6 to win those trophies.

I can name you a bunch of teams that have won trophies with a total price of the whole team less than the price of the cheapest player on that list.

Anyhow, he was brought here to win La Decima and not some trophies that any average coach could have won. In my mindset he did fail. He did raise the team to a stellar team, but he did not achieve his main objective.

09/10 they got 96 points meaning, they were amazing before Mou even came.

As for inter, they were always garbage( only liked them when Roni was there before injury). They won the CL same way Chelsea won it last year, luck, and Bayern screwing up big time in the final.

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manchesterutI 12 years ago
Real Madrid, England 23 388

What i like about Mourinho is that he can get the best our of players when they listen to him. The thing with Mou this year is that a lot of players started rebelling and put themselves before the team. Big egos are the reason Mou's RM failed to achieve the objectives.

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Dynastian98 12 years ago
Real Madrid 483 7140

@ManchesterutI

They got 96 points in a season because

  1. They had Manuel Pelegrini and
  2. They were already knocked out of the Copa del Rey and UCL (HINT HINT, the competition you are whining about)

They played a game a week, whereas Mourinho had to play Bayern twice, and Barcelona away all in 7 days. And don't forget this season, where they had to play Valencia three times, then Barca and United all within the span of one month. It's much easier to win when you play a game a week, rather than playing two or three different top-class teams every few days.

And if you think that Inter and Chelsea both won the CL with only luck, you are a simple idiot. I have one thing to tell you. Don't disgrace Real Madrid with your idiotic comments. You tarnish our reputation.

@Rai

Yes, I know I skipped them, but even WITH CR7, Kaka (uninjured), Alonso, and Benz, Real won NOTHING with Pelegrini. I'll admit, if Pelegrini was given another year, I'm sure he would've done much better. But Perez apparently knew of the existence of only one manager in world football, and his name is Mourinho. :(

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juveomar 12 years ago
Juventus, Italy 0 1

no they cant

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