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KingHenry 11 years ago
Arsenal, France 44 1362

The silly season is coming, so let's pretend we are managers. You have 80m € you can spend on 4 different players maximum. The goal is to be as effective as possible in improving the squad. We'll take transfermarkt website as our reference for player's value. You are allowed to sell one player, but the maximum of 4 players doesn't change. You can't sell players running out of contract, and you can sign players on a free if it is known that they are out of contract this summer. You can then if you want post your new starting 11.

We can then discuss and argue about who's the most realistic and who's the most effective, and then who's been the best manager ! Let's play.

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KingHenry 11 years ago
Arsenal, France 44 1362

@fredtilson So not much change in the starting 11 ? What do you make of Vermaelen ? He could become available in the summer. Talking about CBs, what's up with nastasic, he was a big deal last season but this season I haven't heard much about him.

@eden wasn't schwarzer on a one year contract ? Don't you think it would be better to keep Cech as a mentor for Courtois ?

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Eden17Hazard17 11 years ago
Chelsea FC 157 4232

I do, but Cech may leave if he's number 2

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Eden17Hazard17 11 years ago
Chelsea FC 157 4232

A recap of my complicated reply. IN, SHAW COSTA PAULINHO COURTOIS LUKAKU ZOUMA DAEHLI WICKHAM VARANE, SCUFFET, BERRARDI I don't care about transfermarkt, Shaw and Varane and Paulinho would like a Chelsea move so they may come in a bit cheaper, Costa has a 32m release clause, and we can sell players to get some profit, or even use them in a trade. OUT, when I say this I mean SOLD TORRES CECH BA HILARIO MIKEL LUIZ IVANOVIC BERTRAND RAMIRES and COLE LAMPARD TERRY may retire/quit.

I will rotate my best XI but these players are guaranted places in the XI - COURTOIS AZPILICUETA CAHILL VARANE SHAW MATIC OSCAR HAZARD WILLIAN SCHURRLE COSTA

These players will be subbed on nearly every game and start every 3 games or so - LUKAKU PAULINHO ZOUMA SALAH

These players will stay at Chelsea for the season - MOSES SCHWARZER KALAS AKE VANGINKEL and other others who should.

These players will be loaned to the best clubs that will give them game time - SCUFFET BERRARDI WICKHAM DAEHLI

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FredTilson 11 years ago
Manchester City, France 61 769

@ KingHenry - I don't think he is good enough to be a starter. Backup yes. But I don't think he'd want that. Re. Nastasic, it was a combination of injuries (he's still injured) and having difficulties adjusting to the high line system that Pllegrini plays. Nastasic is not the quickest of the lot, but he's young so I am hoping he might be able to adjust.

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Marcus2011 11 years ago Edited
Chelsea FC, England 277 6501

According to transfermarkt values .

In : Diego Costa - 35 Million Euro

Paul Pogba - 45 million Euro

Out : John Obi Mikel , Fernando Torres .

I would keep 3 strikers and play occasional 4-4-2 : Ba ( he is still good striker , even though his record does not show ) , Eto ( not what he used to be but has a lot of wisdom to help young strikers ) , Lukaku ( needs start making a break into starting line up with patience ) .

Hence the transfer budge is 80 , I would not change my back 4 , I am confident they still can do the job . Plus, we have two wonderful center backs , David Luiz and Kalas who can rotate and keep the team back line fresh .


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Edit : If Terry leaves , and Pogba is not coming then , I would make a bid for Raphael Varane and Arturo Vidal .

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According to transfermarkt values .

In : Diego Costa - 35 Million Euro

Paul Pogba - 45 million Euro

Out : John Obi Mikel , Fernando Torres .

I would keep 3 strikers and play occasional 4-4-2 : Ba ( he is still good striker , even though his record does not show ) , Eto ( not what he used to be but has a lot of wisdom to help young strikers ) , Lukaku ( needs start making a break into starting line up with patience ) .

Hence the transfer budge is 80 , I would not change my back 4 , I am confident they still can do the job . Plus, we have two wonderful center backs , David Luiz and Kalas who can rotate and keep the team back line fresh .


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JuanMata10 11 years ago Edited
Chelsea, Austria 17 1696

IN:
Javi Martinez (Bayern) - € 30 Mio.
Alberto Moreno (Sevilla) - € 15 Mio.
Young Talents from our youth academy - FREE
TOTAL: € 45 Mio.

OUT:
John Obi Mikel - € 10 Mio.
Fernando Torres - € 19 Mio.
Demba Ba - 10 Mio.
Marko Marin - 7 Mio.
Henrique Hilario - FREE
Ryan Bertrand - € 6 Mio.
Victor Moses - € 11 Mio.
Oriol Romeu - € 7 Mio.
TOTAL: € 70 Mio.

PROFIT: € +25 Mio.

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IN:
Javi Martinez (Bayern) - € 30 Mio.
Alberto Moreno (Sevilla) - € 15 Mio.

OUT:
John Obi Mikel - € 10 Mio.
Fernando Torres - € 18 Mio.
Demba Ba - 10 Mio.
Marko Marin - 7 Mio.

IN:
Javi Martinez (Bayern) - € 30 Mio.
Alberto Moreno (Sevilla) - € 15 Mio.
TOTAL: € 45 Mio.

OUT:
John Obi Mikel - € 10 Mio.
Fernando Torres - € 18 Mio.
Demba Ba - 10 Mio.
Marko Marin - 7 Mio.
Henrique Hilario - FREE
Ryan Bertrand - € 6 Mio.
Victor Moses - € 11 Mio.
Oriol Romeu - € 7 Mio.
TOTAL: € 69 Mio.

PROFIT: € +24 Mio.

IN:
Javi Martinez (Bayern) - € 30 Mio.
Alberto Moreno (Sevilla) - € 15 Mio.
Young Talents from our youth academy - FREE
TOTAL: € 45 Mio.

OUT:
John Obi Mikel - € 10 Mio.
Fernando Torres - € 18 Mio.
Demba Ba - 10 Mio.
Marko Marin - 7 Mio.
Henrique Hilario - FREE
Ryan Bertrand - € 6 Mio.
Victor Moses - € 11 Mio.
Oriol Romeu - € 7 Mio.
TOTAL: € 69 Mio.

PROFIT: € +24 Mio.

IN:
Javi Martinez (Bayern) - € 30 Mio.
Alberto Moreno (Sevilla) - € 15 Mio.
Young Talents from our youth academy - FREE
TOTAL: € 45 Mio.

OUT:
John Obi Mikel - € 10 Mio.
Fernando Torres - € 19 Mio.
Demba Ba - 10 Mio.
Marko Marin - 7 Mio.
Henrique Hilario - FREE
Ryan Bertrand - € 6 Mio.
Victor Moses - € 11 Mio.
Oriol Romeu - € 7 Mio.
TOTAL: € 70 Mio.

PROFIT: € +25 Mio.

IN:
Javi Martinez (Bayern) - € 30 Mio.
Alberto Moreno (Sevilla) - € 15 Mio.
Young Talents from our youth academy - FREE
[b/] TOTAL [b/]: € 45 Mio.

OUT:
John Obi Mikel - € 10 Mio.
Fernando Torres - € 19 Mio.
Demba Ba - 10 Mio.
Marko Marin - 7 Mio.
Henrique Hilario - FREE
Ryan Bertrand - € 6 Mio.
Victor Moses - € 11 Mio.
Oriol Romeu - € 7 Mio.
TOTAL: € 70 Mio.

PROFIT: € +25 Mio.

KingHenry 11 years ago
Arsenal, France 44 1362

@marcus You're the only chelsea fan so far to not call Courtois back from Atletico. With both Hilario and Schwarzer running out of contract in June, how would you address this need for a back up GK ? How much do you think you need Varane ? With Kalas and Zouma who could come back from loan that's already 2 talented young CBs. What would be the weakest position on your new squad in your opinion ?

@juanmata Do you think you need Martinez ? How would Martinez/Matic work as double pivot, do you think Matic could become a more offensive box to box CM ? Because else that looks very defensive, also very mourinhoesque. You decide not to sign a striker, but you sell both torres and ba. With Eto'o running out of contract this summer, do you think Lukaka can do the job as the only striker for you club ? Is he good enough yet ?

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tiki_taka 11 years ago
Barcelona, France 367 9768

Out :
Valdes : 10.5M
Daniel Alves : ( sadly leaving to Psg ) 18M
Song : 18M
Affellay : 5M

-> + 51.5 M euros

In :
Ter Stegen : 20M
Hummells : 26M
Godin : 20M
Aguero : 45M

-> - 91 M euros

40.5 M euros net spent.

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Marcus2011 11 years ago
Chelsea FC, England 277 6501

@kinghenry

We have Jamal Blackman ( promising prospect and currently doing good in youth team ) and Schwarzer will stay another year . Courtois is better to be send to Premier League team , so he can get some time getting used to the league .( Preferably mid table team , or if Sunderland survives , I will be glad to see Courtois there ) Cech is still top goalkeeper .

I am just in love with Varane ( No homo ) . So , I choose him over any young center back in the world . Ever since i saw him manhandle Messi by himself , I just can't stop wishing him join Chelsea . How much do we need him ? I n my opinion very much . John Terry is getting old and may leave , so Cahill will need a good disciplined partner, and Varane seems like a perfect fit . Varane already played top games . Amean he played against Barca, Dortmund , Bayern , what else kind of experience young player his caliber needs to deserve starting line up ?

As far As David Luiz , we all know how he can be brilliant and then somehow manage to score own goals , injure our captain and first team goalkeeper . I love Luiz , but he can be very undisciplined and make very stupid mistakes at times .

Kalas can play right back ( exactly what we need to back Ivanovic ) . and Zouma will have to be patient or on loan . They are both very young .

Am i scared we may loose Kalas or Zouma ? No , because I am confident if one of the center backs decides to leave not only , we will get our money back but we will make profit . Plus , if one of them decides to leave , I do not wish to have such player in our club and if they are really up to task playing for top club , they will fight for their spots . Healthy competition within the club will only do good for the every player .

Weakest position

Right back . It can be strong but weakest too . Ivanovic is great at defending but not can be terrible at going forward . However , he works hard , tackles very well and has a great stamina . I think he will do just fine for another season .

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FredTilson 11 years ago
Manchester City, France 61 769

@ tiki taka - I don't see us selling Aguero for anywhere close to 45 million euros.

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KingHenry 11 years ago
Arsenal, France 44 1362

@fred that's the transfermarkt.com valuation. It's for the sake of the thread to have a standard else it would be very subjective.

@Tiki same question as for tdot, which CB pairing would eventually establish themselves as starters in your opinion ? Also how would you accomodate Messi, Neymar and Aguero on the same starting line up ?

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Tuanis 11 years ago
Manchester United, England 87 2311

putting aside players confirmed to be leaving...

Out:

  • Young (14.0m)
  • Ferdinand (1.5m)
  • Hernandez (16.0m)
  • Evra :'(7.5m)
  • Cleverly (14.0m)

In:

  • Coentrao (14.0m)
  • Benatia (18.0m)
  • Pogba (45.0m)
  • Lucas F**** Moura (33.0m)

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FredTilson 11 years ago
Manchester City, France 61 769

F**** is his middle name? So unfortunate.

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Eden17Hazard17 11 years ago
Chelsea FC 157 4232

@King Henry

I agree, every Chelsea fan should bring Courtois back. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but this is what i think.

Marcus,
Blackman is not a promising you talent, he is not very good, just admit it. A promising keeper is a keeper like Scuffet.

Juan,
Also, whats the need for Martinez, Oscar can play CM with Matic slight deeper and even Paulinho would suit our gameplay better.

And why bring in Moreno when Shaw is a Chelsea fan. Moreno is really good, but Shaw is better and is more suited to the premier league.

We should sell Luiz, I like him so much as a person, but he doesn't perform consistently for us, with big money offers around 35m coming in, we should think about selling him.

Also, bring in Varane as he wants a Chelsea move. I know it will mean we have a lot CB but Terry will retire, Kalas and Zouma may be loaned to Europa league clubs, so we will still have Varane Cahill and Kalas/Zouma

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FredTilson 11 years ago
Manchester City, France 61 769

Varane wants a Chelsea move? When did he say that?

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Marcus2011 11 years ago
Chelsea FC, England 277 6501

@tuanis

Let's be little realistic , Pogba will never come back to United . Just like Sturridge , Mata or De Bruyne will never come back to us . )))

@eden

It will be unfair to Peter Cech to bring Courtois back who also wants regular starting . Courtois can endure another season on loan . When he signs new contract send him to another club but this time in England if possible . No new contract , than bring him back to battle the first team spot .

Peter Cech has done , so much for the club and still in great form . Therefore , I can't find a single reason to drop him to the bench .

Blackman is promising young talent . Not sure what is your definition of young talent , but Jamal is doing good and in few years will be valued in 5-7 million pounds . Plus, Jamal is our product therefore you get loyalty and love from such player to settle down for bench for the sake of the club . Like Hillario and Paulo Ferreira. ( ofcourse not forever )

Everyone has their opinion , but playing Oscar as CM will be downfall of your season . It might work in FIFA PS3 :)

Varane never wanted to join Chelsea or wants to join Chelsea over Real . No one wants to leave Madrid unless they played some significant amount of years or Real will sort give them signs as if they not needed much anymore . Leaving Madrid is sort of a downgrade . Let's be honest , Real Madrid is the most popular team in the world and many people around the world recognize each player very well . So , what player would not want to play for Madrid ?

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tiki_taka 11 years ago Edited
Barcelona, France 367 9768

@Fredtilson : i dont think Aguero cost that cheap either, i used Transfermarkt like it was said on the thread.
I prefer a classic tall 9 like Mandzukic to have a plan B, but since Messi is insisting to sign Aguero, maybe they had a conversation i dont know, i tried to be realistic and i chose Aguero over Suarez for example because he can adapt to Messi.

For CB, we need safety in the back, David Luiz has an attacking profile, i prefer a pure defender like Hummells or Silva/Kompany but its hard to take a player from City or PSG...

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@Fredtilson : i dont think Aguero cost that cheap either, i used Transfermarkt like it was said on the thread.
I prefer a classic tall 9 like Mandzukic to have a plan B, but since Messi is insisting to sign Aguero, maybe they had a conversation i dont know, i tried to be realistic and i chose Aguero over Suarez for example because he can adapt to Messi.

Wolfie 11 years ago Edited
Inter, Germany 94 1844

In
Götze - 35 mil
Modric - 30 mil
Pique- 15 mil
Immobile- 20 mil
Sagna -Free

Out
Guarin- 15mil
Ricky- 10 mil
Kuzmanovic -2.5 mil
Taider - 2.5 mil

70 mil spent

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In
Götze - 35 mil

Modric - 30 mil
Pique- 15
Immobile- 20 mil
Sagna -Free

Out

Guarin- 15mil
Ricky- 10 mil
Kuzmanovic -2.5 mil
Taider - 2.5 mil

70 mil spent

In
Götze - 35 mil

Modric - 30 mil
Pique- 15
Immobile- 20 mil
Sagna -Free

Out

Guarin- 15mil
Ricky- 10 mil
Kuzmanovic -2.5 mil
Taider - 2.5 mil

70 mil spent

In
Götze - 35 mil
Modric - 30 mil
Pique- 15
Immobile- 20 mil
Sagna -Free

Out
Guarin- 15mil
Ricky- 10 mil
Kuzmanovic -2.5 mil
Taider - 2.5 mil

70 mil spent

Dynastian98 11 years ago
Real Madrid 483 7140

How is Modric only worth 30 M via transfermarkt. What.

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